Turf obalanserat mellan länder(?)

[Moru]

I said nothing about no PPH and same PPT.

Yes, the PPH/PPT is supposed to balance, that is exactly our point. It's supposed to balance but it completely fails at balancing anything.

[ojarnstr]

Okay you talked about same take points and removing PPH earlier... not sure what your idea is now?

[Moru]

I was talking about the absolutely easiest method (from dev viewpoint) to even out the playing field.

Turf has nine levels of PPH. Remove the first one. Maybe the second. PPT can stay as it is.

I heard this was done before I started playing, and then it was added back again later for unknown reasons.

[ojarnstr]

Yes there was 250 +0 zones but they were for ones with very few takes and once they turned +1, they never turned back.

Simply removing +1 zones could make high active areas too powerful. For me it would be playing around with 92 take points and no PPH... I have about 150 zones in biking range. You make it sound like it is only a negative to play in a high active area.

Would it then not be easier then have a max PPH... not sure what that would be +500 maybe?

[Mikey]

Max pph would be nice..or you need to go back in 3 days to activate it again for 3 more days of ph or something..anything reallyt to make it fair..like now it is silly unfair.

[Mikey]

Zone growth was needed to get players in Germany and the UK.

London has thousand of zones and gets alot more all the time even though almost no turfers start...why they get more zones still..we get like 1 each 3 months..with 150 active turfers in small area...silly zone quota...just not fair either.

[Mikey]

There is much complaining on the forum less good solutions. For Turf to also grow outside of Sweden... zone growth is needed, who wants to play this game with only 5 zones in your town.

Let me guess, you turf in a place you can keep like 100-200 zones many days? Just a guess, no judging. But sounds like it.

London has 4250 zones 24 active turfers this round...the amount of zones is not the problem...yet they get more zones so they can turf yellow zones for all the round...getting sick amount of point. Them guys would not get them medals not living there.

Gotland has 377 in the whole island and still more turfers than in London...why dont Gotland get more zones. Because Turf preffer to get money...nothing else..they dont care the system got killed when UK and DE and Finland got turf with the unfair amount of zones they got.

[Moru]

Simply removing +1 zones could make high active areas too powerful. For me it would be playing around with 92 take points and no PPH... I have about 150 zones in biking range. You make it sound like it is only a negative to play in a high active area.

If you just would do the math, you would see the unreasonble problem. It just don't compare to your situation. It's not only the PPH problem. You still get more points even though you take your own zones. We have to skip zones because there is always at least five more players in the same area blocking zones. You get minimum 92 PPT you say. We get minimum 65 PPT. But we might not get any points because the zones are already blocked. You can forget about the PPH in high-trafic areas. We keep the zones for a couple of hours max, if we start turfing at 2 am. Any other time and we get followed from start to finnish and there is 0 PPH left in the morning.

All your suggestions are just punishing us in high-trafic areas. Why set a max PPH of 500? That would make it even more unfair since the only benefit we have, we can get 1000 PPH if we turf for 8 hours non-stop during a night in case everyone else sleeps. We can keep those zones for about 2-3 hours and make a few more points. That benefit would be gone if there is a max limit. But it would still be beneficial for you since you can still load up with 500 zones in areas with no turfers and keep them all month. What would your suggestion really fix? Why do you keep arguing to make the game more unfair instead of fixing the obvous faults?

The game will never grow if it's not fair.

[ojarnstr]

Well this is the problem I have yet to see a solution that solves all issues and makes Turf equal in all areas. I have offered no solutions I just pointed out flaws in your idea.

I have turfed with both zero activity in my town and high activity. For me current systems works at it should, with no activity I struggle to make 50k a week, with high activity 100k is no problem.

Are you telling me that there is no area close to you with +1 zones... one can do a tour on the countryside for a change, especially if the center is full of turfers.

I find it very unfair that my take medal level is so low... you guys in high activity areas have it so easy to get many takes.

[Mikey]

We have 1 village within reach with more than 5 zones...even there you can have zones for max 2-3 days. Take medals means crap when you try to compete in league...someone in FI, UK or DE gets 300 zones and keep them...we lose all we take in 1-2 days.

You can take alot of medals like greed 200-500..we can only dream of anything above 150

The end is always the same, Turf can change the bad balance but they dont give a crap.