Original thread from here: viewtopic.php?t=17070
Just to clarify what the discussion is about: The point system in Turf is self-balanced. This is believed to be as fair as we can get it with current game rules. Areas with few players get more points per take (PPT) and a lower point per hour (PPH) as long as you hold the zone. Areas with many players get lower PPT since they can take the zones more often. Instead they get more points per hour they keep the zone to balance the total score.
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So here is an updated detalied comparison on september round 2024 with two extreme cases.
The contestants:
#1 AJHB (mainly London, UK) (placed #2 in the world)
#2 Nihilisten (Umeå, Sweden) (placed #70 in the world)
#1 - Average speed 11 km/h
A lot of long travels all over UK. I cut at 50 km/h but you still get a higher average due to accelleration and slow streets getting counted in.
#2 - Average speed 9 km/h
Only bike and three towns, biking between them. Turfing similar to how everyone turfs around here.
How much less or more did player #2 do or get compared to player #1:
#2 took 519 zones more
#2 got 1082667 points less or about 32% of #1’s score
#2 traveled 180 km less than #1 or about 90% of #1’s distance
#1 had to revisit 231 zones more than #2
#1 spent 26.4 hours less than #2 actively turfing
#1 got 555 points more per kilometer traveled than #2
How important was the PPH for each user?
#1 got 64% of the points from PPH
#2 got 32% of the points from PPH
If you compare the column with PPH gained from every day, #1's numbers has one more zero than #2 almost every day.
Ex:
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#1 #2
Tuesday 1 60085 4951
Monday 2 68702 3393
#2 needs to turf 38 minutes extra per hour to keep up with #1’s PPH
#1 needs to turf 3 minutes extra per hour to keep up with #2’s PPH
This means that after sleeping 8 hours, #2 needs to turf for 307 minutes just to catch up with #1.
#1 needs to turf 26 minutes to catch up to #2. After that it's only adding to the distance.
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RAW DATA:
Duration Average
Sessions Week Day Duration Zones Points tota Points tp Points pph PPH importance Takeovers Assists Revisits Km H Km/h P/km
AJHB 68 105 0 0 3286 1607630 579544 1028086 64 % 3020 12 254 1841 157,8 11,7 871,4
Nihilisten 117 111 0 0 3805 524963 358436 166527 32 % 3627 155 23 1661 187,2 8,9 316
Diff 49 6 0 0 519 -1082667 -221108 -861559 -32,23 % 607 143 -231 -180 29,4 -2,8 -555,4
Average PPH Average PPT Hours minutes 8 hours
#1 10280861223,91 3672,65 0,05 3,24 26
#2 166527198,25 1914,72 0,64 38,35 307
But for those of you that love to compete, this point system isn't fair so be aware of that before you put any sort of effort into the game. Be aware that if you live in an area with a lot of people, you will have to travel extensively to be able to place high. You need to go to areas that has few players to collect a lot of zones. That will give you a groundplate of PPH income so you can put as much of your effort into actually get ahead of the competition as possible. You don't want to work eight hours per day just to keep even with the top 5 players.
For you that live in a sparsely populated area with only a few zones, yes you will have to travel even more to get points at all. This game is probably not for you.
If you live in an area with lots of people that do not play Turf, this game is definitely for you. Collect lots of yellow zones, you get 50 pts extra for them so 235 PPT. Try to take all zones in your area and fan out. Start the month with long trips to get the zones further away. The